GNOME 2.8.1 Desktop and Developer Platform is released

I'm planning on upgrading to Fedora Core 3 next week when it is released. I'm assuming that it will come with GNOME 2.8.0, as the Fedora tree was frozen weeks ago. Does anyone know the easiest way to upgrade to GNOME 2.8.1? Will Red Hat make GNOME 2.8.1 available for Fedora Core 3? If not, are there reputable third-parties doing this? I could, of course, simply use GARNOME as I have many times in the past, but would prefer to use a version tweaked for my distribution if at all possible.

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Does GNOME 2.8 let you search for files from within Nautilus yet?

If truly integrated support is that hard, at the very least, how hard would it be to wire up a shortcut to launch the "Search for files..." program found on the system (root/foot) menu to come up as a search option when right clicking on a folder in Nautilus? Obviously that program would need a command line option so that it could come up with the "Look in folder..." field initialized to the one you right clicked on.

It's missing things like this which make me wonder if anyone does actual work on GNOME, or just spends all tay taking screenshots of their l33t desktops.

That reminds me, I wonder if there is anything approaching a hig compliant media player yet. I think it was 'totem' that was going to provide this ontop GStreamer? I hope that is coming along for 2.8?

p.s. It would also be nice for Nautilus to have a "launch shell here" option when right clicking on folders, like Windows XP Power Toys provides for explorer, to bring up Gnome Terminal and your shell with that folder as the working dir.

p.p.s It would also be nice for Nautilus to have a "list" view rather than a "details" view for the main window, borrowing the Windows Explorer terms for that functionality.

Moderation in gnomedesktop.org is really pointless and lame. First of all, there are too few moderators so, unlike slashdot where people are moderated up or down by several moderators giving a more unbiased or less off the cuff moderation, posts in gnomedesktop get modded into oblivion just because one person doesn't find what you are saying interesting.

Second, on slashdot, there are so many damn posts you have to filter them or you'd be reading junk all day. When there are a total of 12 posts on a story, modding down 2/3 of all posts is really pointless. Someone asked when garnome was going to release an update and they got modded down? Hey, I'd like to know that. Good thing I browse at -1.

I think moderation on a site like gnomedesktop should only be reserved for trolls and flamebait and even then should hinge on maybe the agreement of a few moderators, not just one. Anything beyond that really hurts the site more than helps it and serves no purpose except for trying to be like big brother (slashdot and the like).

Also, why is the default browsing level at +1 but anonymous is default to 0? That also seems like you are filtering about half the posts, most of which are good and interesting, when most stories only have a handful of posts to begin with.

I don't know how much it is possible to modify rules about how moderation works in phpNuke but if it is possible, I vote do it. The current system is lame. (I'm not just posting because I get modded down all the time since what I am suggesting would still have me modded down most of the time)

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Stupidest gnome change ever....

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The new add panel applet dialogs! Nuf said. Jesus how did that get accepted? How is a flat, unsorted list of huge icons easier to use or consistent with the rest of gnome at all. This change, more than any other (except like 50 changes in epihpany which I won't even start on) is totally worse than what came before and has absolutely zero justification except some bored beginner developer just pulled it out of his ass.

(I'd give the new mime preferences dialogs #2 (distant #2). Why in gods name can I not change the preffered application for a bunch of movie types from xine to totem!!????)

It is amazing how new, and very dumb, features like the applet dialog are added when things like nautilus and mime types are still so buggy. I guess this is the downside to OSS that everyone has pointed out all along, only the fun stuff gets real attention and the important details lag behind.

I'm running freaking 2.8.1 and in nautilus I select 5 files in one directory and then paste them in another, *nautilus makes it look like I just deleted all the files that were in that directory except those I pasted* !!?? I have to hit refresh!!! Galeon gets dumped for the most dog shit browser ever (you know who I mean) for the hypothetical idiot user and bugs like this are still rampant!? Give me a break. My mother, if that happened to her, would absolutely shit her pants. She'd be screaming at me at 11pm to come over and get her computer back to XP ASAP.

Crap like this is why even though I use gnome, I would never, not yet, inflict gnome on a beginner computer user. The idea that gnome usability can even touch macOSX or XP is absolutely laughable, mainly because the basic apps and infrastructure are still so broken and buggy in gnome.

Might be nice to add that in this release, Vietnamese and Chinese Traditional have crossed the 80% translated mark so they're now supported. Unfortunately Malay has dropped below 80% (79.99%, to be exact) and is now partially supported. In total there are now 41 supported languages in GNOME, with another 9 partially supported.