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GNOME 2.9.3 Development Release

Submitted by stro on Fri, 2004-12-24 09:17. Gnome 2.x

This release is a snapshot of development code. Although it is buildable and
usable, it is primarily intended for testing and hacking purposes. Like the
good old days of Linux kernel development, GNOME uses odd minor version
numbers to indicate development status. Please check the 2.9 start page for
more information...

http://www.gnome.org/start/2.9/

platform: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/platform/2.9/2.9.3/NEWS
tar.gz: 48M total
tar.bz2: 34M total

desktop: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/desktop/2.9/2.9.3/NEWS
tar.gz: 153M total
tar.bz2: 108M total

bindings: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/bindings/2.9/2.9.3/NEWS
tar.gz: 15M total
tar.bz2: 11M total

Happy testing!

- The GNOME Release Team

New Features

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sun, 2005-01-09 10:38.

Have you added the ability to create and change starters in any folder? At the moment this only possible in for example applications:///.

It would be really cool if the menus (i mean the ones that are usually on the top panel) all get there their very own uri. For example: I have got 2 menus on the top panel. The first one is called Applications, the second one Computer. It would be cool to enter applications-menu or computer-menu to edit one of them.

Is it now possible to burn Audio CDs within the gnome-cd-creator? It would be enough if it asks to burn either an Audio CD or a Data CD if there are any audio files in the burn:/// location. A small, easy to use, yet powerful burning application would be even cooler.

I like the possibility to use scripts to enhance the power of the Gnome Desktop. But 1. why isn't there a systemwide location to put scripts for all users, it could be made reachable by using the gnome-vfs, it could be called system-scripts:///, the user could use scripts:/// or user-scripts:/// to edit his very own scripts. 2. Scripts would be even more useful if they only appear when they are needed. I think a simple XML file for each script describing what the script does when it should appear in the menu would do the job. The description file could be called scriptname.scriptdescription. The script menu should maybe also renamed to actions.

The "new document" menu:
1. The templates directory should be placed in ~/.gnome/templates and not in ~/Templates, nobody needs this directory in daily use.
2. What about a systemwide "Templates" directory???
3. The templates directory should be made reachable through the gnome-vfs. system-templates:/// for the systemwide templates. And user-templates:/// and templates:/// for users own templates.
4. An template-ignore.conf file should allow users to ignore templates in the systemwide Templates directory. This would also be great for the "scripts" directory.
5. There is a bug in the "new document" and "scripts" menus. Folders may not contain spaces and/or german umlauts.

New submenus:
I would like to have two new submenus for nautilus. The first one allows to copy the second one allows to move files to a given location. I saw this feature in KDE and it is really useful. The locations should be given by two configuration files, one for the user, and one for the whole system. It should allow folders, any gnome-vfs location and devices and also compressed or non-compressed archives like tar and bzip2. If a folder/file is copied to a cd drive it should actually copy it to the burn:/// location. And also here it should be possible to reach the settings through a gnome-vfs location. system-moveto-locations:///, moveto-locations:///, system-copyto-locations:/// and copyto-locations:///.

Documents folder.
At the moment the Documents folder can't be renamed without losing the Gnome support. It would be better if the user could set the name of the Documents himself using gconf. To allow user who don't know the location of this folder to use it on a foreign machine you could use the gnome-vfs. For example documents:///. It is the same about the Desktop folder.

Well, that was my wishlist for Gnome 2.10.

Any questions, comments,... send a mail to hartmut.meigen@gmx.de

FTP Access

Submitted by waf on Mon, 2004-12-27 11:39.

One thing that frustrates me about gnome.org is their ftp access. Be it gnome art, or the source tarballs, the most I manage to get is a megre second of a download, and it simply stalls. Is there something I'm missing about gnome.org's ftp site?

Does this release fix the pro

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sun, 2004-12-26 23:05.

Does this release fix the problem where you can't drag windows off the top of the screen? That bug was driving me so nuts I actually switched to KDE until it gets fixed.

No, that's still an open bug

Submitted by Anonymous George on Mon, 2004-12-27 22:27.

There is still an open bug about that issue (which one of the Metacity developers strongly objects to, and which another doesn't care much about). We'll have to see how it pans out, but edge resistance will need to be implemented before a solution to this issue can be attempted.

That's Not a Bug; It's a Feat

Submitted by Anonymous George on Mon, 2004-12-27 05:15.

That's Not a Bug; It's a Feature(tm)-- the idea of that particular behavior is to prevent anyone from ever getting stuck with a window that they can't move because they can't reach the titlebar.

It's a bad feature!

Submitted by Anonymous George on Mon, 2004-12-27 08:15.

Metacity allow Alt+left click & drag window for same thing, so this is a bad feature, I think :) Or any mouse other specified modifier. And even, we have shortcut for activating window moving with arrow keys.

Applications behave strange

Submitted by Anonymous George on Mon, 2004-12-27 10:26.

I don't like this feature either. Think of applications that present their windows such that OK or CANCEL buttons (typically in the bottom-right corner of a widget) are not even visible anymore because the window's height is too big for the current desktop (ok, that shouldn't happen, but it does)

Concrete example:
I work on a 1024x768 notebook with a panel on the top and one at the bottom (using gnome2.8). When using Eclipse for coding (the GTK version) and showing its Preferences Menu, I always have to hide both my panels, in order to access the OK button. Would the Preferences window be only slightly bigger, I would have no chance to push the OK button anymore.

I think a more flexible solution would be required!

You may have found a bug

Submitted by Anonymous George on Mon, 2004-12-27 22:23.

Metacity is supposed to handle the special case where windows are too large to fit on the screen and allow the titlebar to be moved offscreen in this case. It sounds like perhaps you found a bug with this code; I would suggest filing your experience in bugzilla.

That really should be filed a

Submitted by Anonymous George on Mon, 2004-12-27 15:03.

That really should be filed as a bug in Eclipse. 1024x768 is considered a very standard sized desktop.

That really is the wrong answer

Submitted by Anonymous George on Tue, 2004-12-28 08:38.

The right answer to the OP's kind of question is not "It is someone else's fault." The right answer is "We will fix it, but you should also tell X they are doing something wrong." Remember the Internet philosophy: Be liberal in what you accept and conservative in what you send. It applies well to most forms of IPC.

List of changes?

Submitted by pata_pata on Sat, 2004-12-25 06:27.

Is there some changelog about this release? I have found nothing in the link http://www.gnome.org/start/2.9/

I'm curious about what's going on for 2.9.3

Oh, and merry christmas to all! (and happy hacking!)

Read the NEWS files in the ar

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sat, 2004-12-25 19:16.

Read the NEWS files in the article. A Change_Log really is a log, and you don't want to read that=)

Thanks

Submitted by pata_pata on Sun, 2004-12-26 09:51.

Sorry for my error. I was looking at the article's links that end in big NEWS text, but was not seeing them (rather was assuming they were download links, surely due to the tarball sizes shown below).

Christmas celebrations (drinks specially) should be blamed for this! :-P

nautilus startup faster

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sat, 2004-12-25 01:17.

but for opening a large directory, it remains slow

Use newer GTK+

Submitted by zdzichu on Sat, 2004-12-25 13:26.

GTK+ 2.6 have apparently optimised large directories. You should try it.

--
:wq

thanks, I use gtk+2.6

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sun, 2004-12-26 03:59.

thanks, I use gtk+2.6

Worse Nautilus "bug" ...

Submitted by rehdon on Sat, 2004-12-25 07:38.

... is that you have to access the Preferences to view hidden/backup files. This is really an obnoxious one.

merry Christmas to all!

rehdon

Really?

Submitted by isak on Sat, 2004-12-25 11:18.

You don't have to go to Preferences to toggle viewing of hidden files on or off. It's a checkbox right in the "View"-menu. At least on nautilus 2.8.0.

Oh, and merry christmas to you to :-)

Seems not!

Submitted by rehdon on Sat, 2004-12-25 13:09.

Boy, is this good news! What a pity that Mandrakelinux is one GNOME release behind. Time to look into cooker ...

Thanks for the tip.

rehdon

Notification

Submitted by sridharinfinity on Fri, 2004-12-24 22:55.

When is GNOME going to adopt notification support to the desktop?

--
Sridhar R

Gnome Menu Editing?

Submitted by Anonymous George on Fri, 2004-12-24 19:43.

There is no way to edit Gnome Menu in 2.8.
I wonder if they gonna fix this problem?

no, menu can be edited

Submitted by Anonymous George on Fri, 2004-12-24 20:16.

Yes, you must go to "applications:" in nautilus to access menu to edit it. Something similar to trash:

Nope

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sat, 2004-12-25 03:17.

The applications:/// uri is now broken.

It works here. Complain to y

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sat, 2004-12-25 16:31.

It works here. Complain to your distro's Gnome maintainers.

which won't do much good if t

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sun, 2004-12-26 11:51.

which won't do much good if that distro has 2.9.x :) applications: is gone.

So what replaces it?

Submitted by Anonymous George on Wed, 2004-12-29 14:47.

Then what replaces the applications:/// url in 2.9 ?

BTW: My Applications menu is now blank in 2.9.3 :/

Tried update-desktop-database and update-mime-database, still no go.

sounds like you are missing t

Submitted by Anonymous George on Thu, 2004-12-30 11:04.

sounds like you are missing the new gnome-menus package, which follows the XDG standard.

I dont like applications styl

Submitted by Anonymous George on Sun, 2004-12-26 21:01.

I dont like applications style in 2.9.x

Again???

Submitted by Anonymous George on Fri, 2004-12-24 17:21.

File Roller

* Fixed bug #160221: No more "extract here" entry in Nautilus context menu.

What do they plan, that we will actualy run File Roller gui???? Bad decision.

God, I hope that someone will start writing something like File Roller, only having all context menus. Or something like nautilus-sendto (author of this on just become my personal hero).