Picture Perfect and in Tune

IMO Muine and F-Spot are /by far/ the most advanced apps in their area.

(And I am saying that though I would personally prefer them to be written using another language then C#/Mono.)

i can not code and i am not layer

Then please, stop posting uninformed messages.

A journalist should know it's written "lawyer", not "layer" =P

On a more personal take I don't like java or mono. I haven't written anything using either and I am not saying anything about their quality or ease of use. I belive anyone saying it's easy to write something with them. The problem why I don't like them is because they're just adding one more layer on top of already existing APIs. I also have yet to see a mono program which outperforms a traditional C/C++ program..Though, I like F-Spot alot. It's just too slow and buggy as of yet for any real use.

does that mean that people who can not code or are not layers can not recognise dirty lobby when they see it?

Really, I can't see what's lobby about this article.

Bullshit, those applications get attention because they rock, period. If you didn't notice, the fact that those apps are written in Mono if anything gets mentioned as a possible downside (harder to obtain).
What _I_ am tired of are the constant accusation of hype and propaganda, whenever something gets attention that certain people aren't happy about. And don't try to tell me you are oh so unbiased.

Everyone can think of Mono whatever they want, but it's undeniable that it was successful in enabling a bunch of really slick new applications. If you believe that these applications could just as well have been written with any other framework, then f*cking do so but don't complain about it from your armchair. Good stuff deserves good press, deal with it.

(I'm not as angry as I sound, as this is a rather pathetic issue. I care about the topic however, because being a GNOME application developer should be fun and that requires improving the available frameworks, instead of trying to demolish what might be the best currently available solution.)

Really the whole reason these new crops of Gtk#/Mono apps are springing up is that Mono allows you to write these sorts of applications much quicker than you could in C. You don't have to do your own memory management, C# is easier to read and comprehend than C, the Gtk# documentation is often much better and easier to understand than the equivalent C API documentation. Sure, they *could* be written in C. But why go through that pain?

Neither of those links say you need a license to distribute mono in the United States. From the first link you posted:

"The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.

The Mono strategy for dealing with these technologies is as follows: (1) work around the patent by using a different implementation technique that retains the API, but changes the mechanism; if that is not possible, we would (2) remove the pieces of code that were covered by those patents, and also (3) find prior art that would render the patent useless. "

None of the mono applications for Gnome that I'm aware of use ADO.NET, ASP.NET, or Windows.Forms. In addition, the strategy for dealing with potential patent infringements has been stated above and numerous other times. It's the same strategy used by any piece of open source software. This is no different.

Just about any piece of complex software ever written violates some patents. There are numerous patents violated in the Linux Kernel, for example. But if you face litigation you deal with those patents by looking for prior art, finding another way to implement the same functionality, etc. Java has the same patent issues.