Freerock GNOME 2.12.1 for Slackware released

Dropline is significantly better. Freerock and gware both have a policy of replace nothing/very little by default and as such you get crippled installs. Plus the artwork of dropline is just superb.

I have to agree, I use my computer as a desktop and I want things to
just work. I have seen so many people try to use the excuse that because
dropline replaces some of slackwares packages that it is almost taboo to
even think about using it. Funny thing is, you can find some of these
very people distributing packages in which come with slackware on linux
packages. Personally I believe this is just an excuse people use for not
using it and I would probably be right in saying that most of them who
use this arguement are saying so from heresay and haven't ever even used
the dlg desktop. Over the last few slack and dlg releases I have seen
just how gnome is hampered by using "PATS" packages that are distributed
with slackware. I remember a bug in samba that wouldn't allow the use of
a seperate config file and because people were complaining about
package replacement, this buggy samba was used instead of a new dlg
pack that would have corrected this problem. The 2.12.0 release really
comes to mind. I remember myself pulling out my hair when trying to
get hal/dbus working with the hotplug pack distributed with slack.
Not a pretty sight especially when you go through the build script and
find essential things deliberately left out because for whatever
reasons pat thought them not necessary. Just going through the slack
scripts it amazes me the stuff that is left out of the builds and the
absolutely moronic comments that accompany some of them. Don't get me
wrong, I love slackware, and I totally appreciate the efforts that pat
and his buddies put into creating what I consider to be the most
stable distrobution out there, but through his own hard headedness,
slackware isn't what I think it really could be. "Don't replace
slackwares packages, they are built the way they are for stability and
security", you hear this all the time. Well anyone with half a brain
would realise that for one if you are running a system that requires
the type of security these people are talking about, they are most
likely running a server(s) and shouldn't be running a desktop in the
first place. Running a desktop on slack or any other distro for that
matter, security is not so much of an issue that replacing a few packs
with sometimes the same or newer versions with slightly varied compile
options is going to be some huge security risk. This is a desktop for
crying out loud. If you want a desktop lacking in functionality that
is your choice and this is why projects like freerock are out there.
If you want a fully functional desktop where most everything works off
the bat then something like dlg is great. Personally I wish they would
tell all the ignorant people out there that whine about package
replacement to go cry elsewhere and replace the packs that they feel
need replaced that will improve dlg's functionality. Dlg was first
created to bring a no bs, fully functional desktop to Slackware and
it should stay that way. Don't like it, don't use it, but please don't
manufacture stupid reasons as to why one shouldn't use it. Not only
does it give false information to those who may want to try it, but it
also makes slackware users look ignorant. I've been using it for years
and I can honestly say that dlg packs have broken my system less than
installing official slack updates. So please keep that arguement to
yourself also, I am more than willing to listen to someones arguement
about dlg, but to date I have yet to hear one that is legit.

does dropline have a repository with current packages, like slackware and freerock?

Most of the users who run the dlg desktop already use the most current version of given software available and if there's a security release or a bug fix the DLG team makes new release almost instant. And i thank them for that because it shows that they take their work seriously.

Honestly i dont know what's the whining and pointing fingers about? There's a choice be it DLG or GSB or FREEROCK all of these projects have their strenghts and weaknesses and they all are good within their own right and have the users who are happy with the choices they made.

a simple yes or no answer would have sufficed. and I still don't know if it does or doesn't.

that would be a simple answer. They do seem to something nice in works http://dle.kiwiuk.net/

"Substantially"? Dropline only replaces a couple of things from Slackware CD1, and they've made the why of that clear many, many times now. I don't really see how it makes a system "not" Slackware, when those things just eliminate problems many new users have on their desktops.

That reason is PAM and really just pam. And as soon as Pat joins the 21st century with the rest of it, it will cease to be such a huge issue.

spreading more nonsense. Pat did mention dropline project a while ago. But the point is that i am very happy for you made a great choice and use what you feel is the best.