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Mono Directions

Submitted by stro on Tue, 2005-11-22 09:08. Mono

Miguel de Icaza wrote:
We just released Mono 1.1.10, our best release so far. The major feature missing from this release to call it Mono 1.2 is the completion of our Windows.Forms implementation.

In this document I only present the direction of development of the Mono team at Novell; A more comprehensive view of other Mono developments by the Mono community is something that am working on and will post at a later date.

I also present how our team's priorities are shifting in response to Novell's own internal use of Mono and external factors like the final release of .NET 2.0.

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Wrong, wrong oh so very wrong

Submitted by TopDown on Tue, 2005-11-22 12:31.

If we specifically talk about desktop apps, I agree that both of these languages suck *for desktops* but that does not imply that a language sucks, it's BS to say sth like that anyway.

All the Mono apps I've used for the desktop have been quite pleasant. It's only Java apps that push everything into swap and run like treacle.

You forgot to say that Eclipse is the best IDE you've seen on Linux *for Java*. Eclipse is crap for most anything else. There are far better IDEs on Linux for other languages.

No there aren't. With the exception of Eclipse, every IDE I've ever used on Linux has been a horrid mixture of arcane commands and frequent crashes.

Contrary to what you say, people that created Java made it for a living too.

No they didn't... Java was an experiment that should have been handed over to real coders instead of being run by a bunch of academics and language zealots.

C# was just made years later, and then MS bought the developers, and added lots of library around it.

As I said, C# is heavily inspired by Java... but done right, and with doing real work in mind. Compare and contrast: Nicholas "Quiche eating PASCAL wheeny" Wirth and Dennis "Get some work done in C" Ritchie. Oddly, the guy who made PASCAL usable in coding shops (Delphi) is the same guy behind C#, which is arguably Java turned into a useful productive language... interesting isn't it?

Java is way faster than before on Linux (on par with Windows at least). FOSS have parts of Java 2 (1.4) spec implemented by GCJ and Classpath already, so there's progress.
Strange... I'm using 1.5 and it's dogshit slow on Linux, and has been on two different Linux machines with different distros.

FYI, RedHat "compiled" version of Eclipse uses the free GCJ implementation.

I know... it's crap, slow and uses colossal amounts of RAM.

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