Bugzilla to get a facelift next week

For clicking the summary I have to see what others think. I have a habit of double clicking randomly on a page (selecting text). Having the summary clickable would be pretty annoying in the beginning. But I'll see what others think. If they agree I'll change it. I do remember a Bugzilla bug (upstream) about making the entire line clickable. That was rejected for such a reason (but only summary seems sane though).

I will try to get as many changes into the core/upstream Bugzilla distribution as I can. I still have to finish one of the patches for Bugzilla 2.22 that lots of the changes depend on. It does require some extra work, but it also benefits us as it will make upgrading to a newer Bugzilla easier for GNOME (this upgrade was around 6 months of work). Bugzilla 2.20 has a lot of features not needed by GNOME that I fortunately could ignore when making the changes, but I do believe these changes are possible (many of them are already filed upstream).

I tried adding a 'width: 100%' to the css, but didn't work. Will try to fix that. Appreciate if you have a suggestion to fix that...

... to an element inside the table/a element?

So simple but looked over the cellpadding on the table. Is fixed now.

Good suggestion! Wanted to use Tango icons, but couldn't find user/password icons.

but it appears to me that the people who have done these changes have not really used Bugzilla. Otherwise they would not attempt to remove essential features.

There may be a valid point to your sentiment, but it would really help if you could explain it instead of merely attempting to take a pot shot at others. You haven't stated how much you use bugzilla, in which ways you use it, nor how this particular feature is actually helpful to your particular use cases. You also cast a lot of doubt on your comments by your claims that "the people making these changes have not really used Bugzilla"; anyone who does in fact use it as much as we have (a) know exactly who we are and would refer to us by name (or more likely just talk to us on IRC) and (b) know that we use bugzilla very heavily.

Now, of course, Olav and I might have different use cases than others--mostly because we use it more than most people. If you find something that you think should be different, please explain why and how it would be helpful.

Note - I am not the original poster.

I use bugzilla infrequently, and that's why I found the next/back buttons useful.
I could request all unconfirmed bugs of a product I'm familiar with, and start going over them - Any bug I could confirm I would (and possibly mark as new), those I couldn't confirm I would note so.
I would often bump into bugs I couldn't (or wouldn't) test. For example, 64 bit specific bugs, or bugs that would take too much time to reconstruct. In such a situation, it would be useful to use the "next" button to skip the current bug, and continue working.

If I wanted to use a similar strategy now, how should I do that? I am aware that Bugzilla should move me to the next bug after changing the current, but what if I don't change the current bug at all? What options do I have to get to the next bug, other than going back in my browser to the result list, then going forward (which would be slower and more complicated)?

Yours,

Uri David Akavia

I usually open many tabs because Bugzilla is so slow (I consider 0.1 secs acceptable ;). Then I start investigating each bug, searching for dupes etc. Every time you search the next/back list is 'replaced' (stored in a cookie). Makes the entire Next/Previous thing annoying.

Also having 'This bug is not in your last search results'.. my reponse usually is 'because you forgot them'!

I assume no-one uses anything other than the Next/Prev buttons.. have to see if I can put them someplace where they do not annoy me, while still being useful for the persons that use them.

You might be right (after reading your answer), but I'm glad that you are open to other opinions.

Also, since I didn't say this before:
THANK YOU!
I played around with the new Bugzilla and it seems very useful - very nice options for maintainers and users.
I like the new color scheme as well (I read people complaining).

Thank you,

Uri David Akavia

> but it appears to me that the people who have done these
> changes have not really used Bugzilla

Elijah and me think they are useless. They are not reliable and pretty much suck.

Elijah has closed 8506 bugs. I did 1279. Unless your name is Gerardo Marin I doubt you closed more.

He didn't ask what improvements where made. From the article:
> More details about the change (when it'll happen, what has changed,
> etc.) can be found in his recent email to d-d-l.

So see http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-December/msg00057.html

I think it is pretty clear I won't undo this (I mean upgrading Bugzilla). Note that facelist includes more than just making it look different. That is a very very small part of this change.

What actual improvements were made

You could have answered that question by reading the link provided in the article. ;)

where/why have the back/forward buttons gone?

You could have answered that question by reading Olav's response. They were removed.

Cheers,
Elijah

Perhaps I picked the wrong wording in calling this a "facelift", considering from the comments here so far. There are lots of new, awesome features and bug fixes. See the link in the article to the d-d-l email.

Anyway, back to the topic of your post, I don't even much notice the font change Olav had made while testing stuff out until others had brought it up in regards to the title of bugs on show_bug.cgi (which has since changed). It's possible that this is browser related (as it was for the title of bugs on show_bug.cgi), or just that user preferences are very different (Olav was really annoyed at the old font size, I'm not bothered by either size, and you seem to dislike the new one). If there are enough comments on the issue, we may try to figure out a user preference or something. Haven't really heard much about this issue from other people that have commented, though. *shrug*

I did wonder if I should change the font settings or just change my browser settings. Changing the font sizes do make having the browser font size preferences pointless. But almost every site that I visit already change the font settings. Some do this in such a way that my fonts will be too tiny if I change them. To deal with these sites users already have to use some sort of never-change-my-fonts setting or user css.

So my conclusion was to change the font settings. The new bguzilla will have 'bugzilla-gnome-org' as the body class setting (currently bugzilla-test-gnome-org) for persons wanting to change the layout. Using that and user css you can change the settings to whatever you want.

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PS: I do not pretend. I am on crack.

I agree with the parent post on this. The font size is too small and should be changed to match what is currently on b.g.o.

Hu? You argee bkor is on crack! How awful.

Bkor: come to my office on Monday, we will have a session to solve your problem.