First release of DIVA

Indeed, one may ask why the release of a new application is sorted under the category "Mono". This is obviously a mistake. Not even the DIVA developers like to present their app as a mere Mono marketing tool, I guess.

You're also right that there are other video editing tools, already. For example, Avidemux was not mentioned yet -- people used to the open source windows tool VirtualDub will appreciate its existance.

However, if people start new applications instead of improving the existing ones, this is also the fault of the existing apps.

For example, it's really simple to make a UI a little bit more "GNOMEy". In most cases, it's just a little bit more whitespace and proper dialogs, and the application already looks less demanding.

Unfortunately, lots of GTK+ applications don't care about this.

There's no reason to complain if new projects focus on these issues. In case of video editing applications, this obviously led to a completely different approach that wasn't available for GNOME users yet.

Of course, there's a tendency to pick Mono -- it's the new toy in the kindergarden, and we all know, developers love playing with the new toys! ;-)

So I think you're over-reacting.

Hi,

well I don't know why people like you often think every good application is only mentioned as great, because it is written in mono.

I didn't say, that this application is great, because it is written in mono. But obviuosly there are some guys (like you) out there, who don't like to see good mono applications. So come on and read my posting again. I said, that this is a great application because it goes the way I like to do video editing. I know cinerella, I know Pitivi. But personally I don't like it.

On other platforms we have many many applications for the same job too. They exist, because obviously there is at least one person who don't like the other applications. The same here.

And again: Yes, I like mono. Yes I think it is a good platform to develop Gnome apps. But this has nothing to do, that I like the way diva goes.

Greetings

Mike

So, which are those other decent video editing tools? I don't think there is anything like Diva or Pitivi yet, but I would be happy to be wrong... I don't get why you react so nervously about this, Diva could be written in Assembly for all I care. It is certainly no coincidence though that the latest crop of exciting applications focus on the user interface and are mostly written in higher level languages.

I didn't know lives before, that's the only one of the three that seems interesting and like it could provide what I'm looking for. However, from the screenshots it is obvious that it's not aiming for a simplistic native interface... Many people don't want another "professional" tool, they want something that makes it simple to put some clips together and put a song in the background. Even if it has only "5 pecent" the features of another tool, that doesn't matter if those 5 percent are exactly what the user wants to do.

Go Pitivi, go! :-)

Don't cry :(

Btw. diva is mono, pitivi doesn't seam to be so.

There are in fact more than 2 projects for video editing (go see kdenlive, kino, cinelerra, etc...). The reason I started PiTiVi, and MDK started Diva, is because we have our own vision of what a better video editor could be.

There will always be more than one piece of software to do the same thing and that's good for YOU, the end-user !

As for who's stealing from whom... well the first piece of code dates from 2003, and gnonlin has been around since earlier than that, I think you got it completely wrong.

As for calling it stealing... it's open source, you are meant to build on the shoulders of others. So if MDK sees some interesting ideas in PiTiVi/gnonlin he can use them (and he did), and if I see some interesting ideas in Diva/Gdv I will use them !

If you want to be constructive, submit bug reports, send mails to mailing lists, try out the software, ....

P.S. I think your Caps Lock was on when you sent that message :)